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#1 User is offline   ArmchairSpurs 

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Posted 04 July 2019 - 08:55

He may well become a good manager, but I reckon he has left Derby County far too soon. Another couple of seasons would have been desirable before trying to take on a higher job. Plus points are he knows how Abramovich operates, so will not be surprised if he is removed from office before the season’s end. Due to Woolwich’s slip in fortunes the Chavs should be good enough to finish fourth (a good 10+ points behind us in third). Good to see a young English manager though.
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Posted 04 July 2019 - 12:17

In a way it's a good time to go. Transfer ban plus losing hazard means pressure is off a bit. As a club legend he'll get more time and he's got a few young players that would improve under anyone but he's bound to be a good fit for them.

I did see a derby fan says "thanks for taking us from 6th to 6th with the highest budget in the league" but I often think one season is too early to judge someone. Equally some managers make a great instant impact then are useless, see OGS for what I think will be a good example of that this season.
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Posted 04 July 2019 - 17:29

He got a 3 year contract, if given the right amount of time he's a decent chance to build a proper team. But once that ban lifts the clock will be ticking.


I reckon Abramavich is losing the desire to throw money at them anyway, so maybe they'll stick with Fat Frank to help with developing a team from their vast youth set up.
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Posted 04 July 2019 - 19:03

It's a no lose situation for lampard.

What I'm hoping is that he puts complete faith in the kids , pisses off the seniors of the squad and fails to qualify for the c/l.

Could be the begining of the end for them.
If the youngsters come good then it could be the start of an era.

Let's hope he fails miserably
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Posted 05 July 2019 - 17:12

As much as I hate Chelsea. Which is way more than Arsenal..

I知 weirdly happy for him
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Posted 05 July 2019 - 18:59

View PostRoger Redknapp, on 05 July 2019 - 17:12, said:

As much as I hate Chelsea. Which is way more than Arsenal..

I知 weirdly happy for him


My loathing of the Chavs is, like you, far more than Woolwich, but there again I知 a Sarf London lad and walk amongst them...
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Posted 05 July 2019 - 20:12

View PostArmchairSpurs, on 05 July 2019 - 18:59, said:

My loathing of the Chavs is, like you, far more than Woolwich, but there again I知 a Sarf London lad and walk amongst them...


lol same, I also irrationally hate Liverpool.

Dad doesn稚 get it but I had a Liverpool mate in Uni and I just loathed them since them because of our rivalries!
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Posted 05 July 2019 - 21:08

View PostArmchairSpurs, on 05 July 2019 - 18:59, said:

My loathing of the Chavs is, like you, far more than Woolwich, but there again I知 a Sarf London lad and walk amongst them...


For those of you who might rightly point out that Stamford Bridge is north of the river, it is... but only just. They have a large fan base south of the river, especially in my neck of the woods (north Surrey, Cheam, Worcester Park, New Malden, Kingston). Their royal blue shirts strut around on squat shaven heads with an ignorance that is strangely fascinating.
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Posted 05 July 2019 - 23:50

I hope he struggles, and they end up bottling project "team build" in favour of throwing daft money at everything whilst letting top talent slip through their fingers as usual.
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Posted 08 July 2019 - 13:35

I kind of like Lampard. Hope he f***s it though
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Posted 06 December 2019 - 17:18

transfer ban has been lifted for January. LOL. What a joke
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Posted 07 December 2019 - 06:15

I agree Lampard is the real deal, just a shame he is an arch enemy that we have to hate.

When I say real deal, I mean is a winner, with an engine, has heart, drive, and ambition.

Management is crazy though. Sometimes perfect personal traits and an affinity for a club can work against you.

Klopp basically has none of what I listed and is brilliant.
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Posted 11 December 2019 - 08:24

View Post50 Cent, on 07 December 2019 - 06:15, said:

I agree Lampard is the real deal, just a shame he is an arch enemy that we have to hate.

When I say real deal, I mean is a winner, with an engine, has heart, drive, and ambition.

Management is crazy though. Sometimes perfect personal traits and an affinity for a club can work against you.

Klopp basically has none of what I listed and is brilliant.


Frank de boer was perfect for a certain Ajax squad with your players. After that he fell short on managing bigger players. Interesting to see how lampard will handle a changing squad when big money signing come in.
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Posted 23 December 2019 - 00:17

This is not the first time Lampard has demonstrated he can change tactics to win a game of football.

I would take it with a pinch of salt simply because it is Chelsea's cup final, and he got the last two games wrong tactically according to Chelsea fans.

Mourinho was kind of right in saying he stole a tactic, but wrong in saying it publicly when he lost imo.

I think the point Jose was making is that the young whippersnapper won't last long, with short-term changes and copy-cat style.

He could be right but not classy to say it.
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Posted 23 December 2019 - 10:04

View Post50 Cent, on 23 December 2019 - 00:17, said:

This is not the first time Lampard has demonstrated he can change tactics to win a game of football.

I would take it with a pinch of salt simply because it is Chelsea's cup final, and he got the last two games wrong tactically according to Chelsea fans.

Mourinho was kind of right in saying he stole a tactic, but wrong in saying it publicly when he lost imo.

I think the point Jose was making is that the young whippersnapper won't last long, with short-term changes and copy-cat style.

He could be right but not classy to say it.


The tw*t has emerged, like we knew it would. Lampard made him look like the amateur of the modern game. Reverting to type didn't take long.
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Posted 23 December 2019 - 12:54

View PostYidio Yidio, on 23 December 2019 - 10:04, said:

The tw*t has emerged, like we knew it would. Lampard made him look like the amateur of the modern game. Reverting to type didn't take long.


Yeah, but if he does revert to type we should win something soon.

Also, when he is embarrassed early doors he tends to set things straight for the rest of the season and the next one.
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Posted 23 December 2019 - 13:03

View Post50 Cent, on 23 December 2019 - 12:54, said:

Yeah, but if he does revert to type we should win something soon.

Also, when he is embarrassed early doors he tends to set things straight for the rest of the season and the next one.


His record against his old clubs is poor. Even lost an FA Cup final against Chels while at United.

We can at least look forward to beating Wolves when he ends up there next.
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Posted 23 December 2019 - 14:15

View PostYidio Yidio, on 23 December 2019 - 13:03, said:

His record against his old clubs is poor. Even lost an FA Cup final against Chels while at United.

We can at least look forward to beating Wolves when he ends up there next.


He also lost against Lampard before, United vs. Derby.

That said, I think this speaks more about the people who do beat him, in terms of it being a one off scalp for his former teams.

For example, similarly related, I think Poch beat him once, and then never again (Talking about purely Pochettino's Tottenham vs Mourinho's Chelsea).

It is possible it could be the same for Solskjaer and Lampard (Mourinho's Tottenham vs. Solskjaer's United, and Mourinho's Tottenham vs. Lampard's Chelsea).

In other words, I see a positive long-term pattern.
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Posted 23 December 2019 - 14:47

View Post50 Cent, on 23 December 2019 - 14:15, said:

He also lost against Lampard before, United vs. Derby.

That said, I think this speaks more about the people who do beat him, in terms of it being a one off scalp for his former teams.

For example, similarly related, I think Poch beat him once, and then never again (Talking about purely Pochettino's Tottenham vs Mourinho's Chelsea).

It is possible it could be the same for Solskjaer and Lampard (Mourinho's Tottenham vs. Solskjaer's United, and Mourinho's Tottenham vs. Lampard's Chelsea).

In other words, I see a positive long-term pattern.


It often gets said he ran Pep out of Spain, yet his head to head with him isn't in his favour, quite often his stats get talked up. I've always thought that was just to counter against the many claims of his tripe style of play. The most notable claimee being Cruyff.
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Posted 30 November 2020 - 00:46

I guess Mourinho was never going to go at it knowing 3 losses on the bounce would hurt.

Learnt not to pipe off this time at least.
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